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Who's offering the best deals for our power ?
by BigSkeff at 2010-03-27 16:31:50 (Forum::Public::General)
Who's offering the best deals for our power ?

All's changed with the new FIT's so where is the best deal now ?

I was on 10p / KWH with npower and double ROC's which I sold in the eROC auction for about £50 each minus £50 costs. e.g. about 9p / KWH generated. TOTAL circa 19p / KWH exported.

Now what ?

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Who's offering the best deals for our power ? BigSkeff - 2010-03-27 16:31:50
Re: Who's offering the best deals for our power ? Peter Henderson - 2010-04-01 10:57:25
Nobody by the look of it.

Some may be good to existing customers, but not SSE.

SSE are only offering the standard 9p per unit for total generation, and 3p for exported, whether you opt in or out. They say that as there is only so much money in the pot, that is all they will offer. A drop of 40% from what they paid for exported last year.

On their forms you have to tick whether you are going to accept the guaranteed 3p per unit or opt out. I opted out, but will not get more than the 3p anyway. Lets hope it doesn't become less. Obviously the opt in/out is something for the politicians so they can tick a legal box of their own.

This looks like price fixing to the untrained eye of the man in the street, but I am sure their Legal People know different.
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Re: Who's offering the best deals for our power ? David Hobbs - 2010-04-02 17:46:29
My electricity supplier is Ecotricity, who were paying me 12p per unit generated under the old ROCs scheme. My turbine was installed in 2007 so I was expecting my payments to reduce to somewhere around the 9p mark.

However, I had a letter this week advising me that they are going to increase the payment to a flat rate of 16p per unit generated.

I can't say if this rate will apply to new customers or just existing ones, but it might be worth checking out.
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Re: Who's offering the best deals for our power ? BigSkeff - 2010-04-03 00:25:44
Thanks for your replies.

David, That sounds good to me, and got to be worth a try. Do you have a contact number or name for Ecotricity ? I wonder how their import rates compare as we export > 92% of all power generated and then have to re-import it at circa 16p?

Peter, It seems Npower, SSE and others are sticking to the MINIMUM rate set by Gordon, with no regrets.

Anyone else out there know of a more generous buyer/seller rate ?
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It has been worked out that it would cost each electric account/user approximately £0.07p per annum to include all Microgenerators in the 'New Customers Only FIT rate' ....... Now that doesn’t sound like too much to ask.

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There's an 'Early Day Motion 953' being signed by a number of MP's.
Please everyone petition yours, it's very quick and easy using:
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/


EDM 953
FEED-IN TARIFFS, MICRO-GENERATORS AND CLEAN ENERGY CASH-BACK SCHEMES
26.02.2010

Carmichael, Alistair
That this House notes the pioneering contribution that those households and businesses which have installed micro-generation capacity have made in driving forward the UK's development of its own feed-in-tariff policy; further notes that under the Government's Clean Energy Cash-Back scheme new feed-in-tariff payment rates of up to 41.3 pence per kilowatt hour will only apply to new generators which installed their technology after 15 July 2009 and that those businesses and homes which installed their technology before 15 July 2009 will only receive nine pence per kilowatt hour; calls on the Government to recognise the innovation and dynamism of those people who, in breaking new ground in this area, have helped it deliver the Clean Energy Cash-Back scheme; and further calls on the Government to reward those people at the same level as those installing micro-generation capacity for the first time after 1 April 2010.
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I could also bump the link to the No10 petition ........
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Microgenerators/
Submitted by Mr Paul Truelove – Deadline to sign up by: 02 August 2010
Signatures: 2,273 so far.
The more the better on this one, also.

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Re: Who's offering the best deals for our power ? David Hobbs - 2010-04-03 09:29:45
To contact Ecotricity telephone 0845 555 7100, email Renewable.Rewards@ecotricity.co.uk or visit www.ecotricity.co.uk.

Their charges for electricity supplied from the grid are set to match those of the major suppliers in a given area. I'm currently paying 13.85p/4.45p on my Economy7 tariff. The first 900 day-time units per annum are charged at 29.14p.

Not necessarily the cheapest supplier, but they are a superb company to deal with and have always been extremely helpful on all matters relating to home generation. They have been particularly helpful in the changeover from ROCs to FITs, providing all the necessary forms and instructions on what needed to be done.
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Re: Best so far - Microtricity @16p for total generated BigSkeff - 2010-04-21 02:12:36
Thanks David,

Cheers for the heads up, spot on.

I called ECOTRICITY 0800 0326 100 and was directed to the Microtricity part of their website ( www.ecotricity.co.uk ) where it states:

That there are two rates of payment depending on when your installation was commissioned:

• After 15th July 2009 – you should be eligible for the full FiT rate.

• Before 15th July 2009 – with the standard RO transfer rates, you should be eligible for a rate of 9p/kWh and an export payment of 3p/kWh (guaranteed until 31st March 2027). But we at Ecotricity believe in backing green energy pioneers, so we’ll be offering a total flat rate of 16 pence per kWh (inclusive of the export payment) for every unit you generate**. These payments will be reviewed on an annual basis.

* Export rate is inclusive if you sign up to Microtricity’s pre 15th July 2009 rate.
** 16p unit price is capped at 6kW installation size and is subject to terms and conditions.

As you say, buying their power is part of the deal.

Their rates are based on where you live. Ours for the Humber region are:
14.91p/kWh inc Vat for the first 728 units and 13.9p/kWh inc Vat for the rest.

I'm calling them again tomorrow to ask about the 'terms and conditions'

James

p.s. I've attached the factsheet, below.

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Re: Best so far - Microtricity @16p for total generated Roger Vincent - 2010-04-22 10:00:50
-It looks that all of the power companies are determined to stick together and sing from the same hymn sheet and pay only the min amount of 3p for exported power. Before I sign up with anyone I have been awaiting Good energys decision which was my last hope of getting just a little more for my export amount. I am sorry to say that they also are sticking with the 3p amount for all new customers, but existing customer will get just a little more, which is fair enough. Ecotricity looks good at first glance but not so good when I worked out the actual figures. A lot depends on how big a percentage of your generated power that you export and how much you are charged by the power company for your imported power. In my case living in Devon Southern Power looks likely to be the best bet just on the fact that their imported power is the best rate for this area. Hoping that my figures are correct I would be £200 better off that using Microtricity. It pays to do your calculations.
Re: Best so far - Microtricity @16p for total generated Stuart - 2010-04-23 09:38:57
It would be really great if there was an online calculatore that would work out what is best.

You put in your yearly production and usage and it then says got for xxx company.

I guess could be done with a google spreadsheet?
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