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Schools and Wind Turbines
by Andy Roberts at 2008-01-24 15:18:02 (Forum::Public::Wind)
Let's get schools started properly. (It's a bit long, sorry!)
I'm the Sustainable Schools Advisor in Lincolnshire and I would invite your help in writing a county (UK??) factsheet / booklet on choosing, installing and using small WTs in schools.

I'd like short sections on Why WTs?; Where to install WTs; How to choose?; Real World economics of WT's; Justifying WT's on environmental grounds - and whatever else you'd think is worthwhile.

I'm thinking that this has all been written before so links to or copies of articles suitable for inclusion for both non-technical schools (most primary schools) and those with a small amount of expertise (eg secondaries with Physics dept's) would be very much appreciated.

I also want to put together classroom materials, plus datasheets for use by the 'Eco-Schools' committees who already have a responsibility for reading and recording electricity, gas/oil and water useage. Does anyone know of anything that is already in the public domain?

Finally, I want to organise a national data-collection scheme, similar to your own Google Sheet. I'd not necessarily recommend giving schools access to your own sheet - pupils will provide the data and will often make mistakes so I'd not want to corrupt your data. However, we could do something very similar - or maybe spreadsheet/e-mail based - what do you think? I'd also want to include here wind-speed and direction data - taken from their weather stations.

Any contributions can be attributed if desired, including those from commercial interests. If any firm would like to sponsor or advertise in the booklet (which will go out to 350 schools in Lincolnshire and probably 1000's more country-wide if it all goes well; it'll also be web-based (see the LincolnshireLowCarbon.com website)

I can be contacted best on 'ajdroberts at aol.com' (and also on Sustainability@Lincolnshire.gov.uk) but do please post replies here so people can see who/how/what is available for schools.

Andy

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Schools and Wind Turbines Andy Roberts - 2008-01-24 15:18:02
Re: Schools and Wind Turbines Simon Ridout - 2008-01-25 18:07:09
Schools certainly need to get their act together. 15 months ago, when I was applying for planning permission for my turbine, I contacted a local secondry school (no names but it is situated at the mouth of the river Cocker) which has a publically funded Provern 6KW turbine. They could not tell me the output (KWHours per month). It definately appeared to be a case of could not, rather than would not, so it really made be wonder about their level of understanding of the subject. Photos of the installation on the school website shows a windyboy inverter with an output gauge!

There are a huge number of publically funded (partially or completely) wind turbines of all sizes. It should be a condition of the funding that actual outputs are published.

After I was awarded my grant by the EST, I had a letter advising me of the uncertainty of wind turbines producing as much power as was expected, however there was no request for information on output after the turbine was commissioned and the grant paid.

RRR is making a good start in wind turbine owners being honest and open about their power output, however this is only a start.
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Re: Schools and Wind Turbines Peter - 2008-02-24 19:36:05
The best school project I have come across is at Cassop Primary School (www.cassopschool.org.uk); the Headmaster and staff seem to have really involved the children. Apart from the wind turbine (Atlantic Orient Corporation 15/50), the school also boasts a wood pellet boiler.

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Re: Schools and Wind Turbines Colin - 2008-02-25 18:52:02
Hi, E.ON's Sustainable Energy Solutions team offer 7 technologies, and are framework suppliers under the LCBP phase 2 for three of them so can access grants up to 30% for turbines. Recent projects have been completed in Kent and Oxfordshire. They also provide a schools pack (CD but will go online) to school customers which was developed with Edcomms for KS1-4 to link the technology bought into the school curriculum. www.eonenergy.com/sustainableenergy
email ses@eonenergy.com
They provide a comprehensive service giving advice on appropriate siting of turbines, and comparing suitability/cost effectiveness with other technologies.
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Re: Schools and Wind Turbines Bryan Rendall - 2008-04-19 10:57:53
Orkney has just had its first grid connected chool turbine installed (small 100 watt 12V turbines on fencing posts excepted!). North Walls Junior High School have just had an Eoltec Scirocco 6 kW turbine installed, partly for reducing the energy demand from the grid (the turbine is expected to produce between 20 and 25,000 kWh per annum), but also as an educational resource.

Turbine output, as well as wind direction, wind speed, solar insolation, temperature and humidity are all logged and transmitted into the School and local authorities IT systems, to enable the performace of the turbine to be evaluated, and also to enable it to form the centrepiece of environmental projects.

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Re: Schools and Wind Turbines BigSkeff - 2008-05-25 14:15:31
Hello Andy, We are a Parish Council in East Yorkshire with a Proven 6 KW Turbine to provide power for the Village Hall. It was installed last February and has been going well. I have now managed to get a WiFi connection set up with a remote access point in the village hall so that the data collected buy a 'WebBox' can be uploaded to a site called SUNNY PORTAL
which is provided free by the inverter manufacturers SMA. Click on 'Public Available Plants'. Filter to 'UK' and choose 'Skeffling Wind Power' to view our results.

Unfortunately, at the moment, the data only goes back to the 6th of April this year but I hope to upload the rest of the production data in the near future. I have eventually managed to get the 'Sensor Box' connected with it's associated sensors for Wind Speed, InSolAtion, Ambient Temp and one to measure the temp in direct sunlight which I have called Roof Temp. it is actually for measuring the temp of a PV array which we don't have. All the same the results are now coming in and over time will, hopefully, be of interest and use to someone.

You can't download the data from the site but I'm sure I will be able to work something out and you are, as is anyone, welcome to whatever data we collect. There's a direct link to our results and some detailed pictures of the installation of the Turbine on www.bigskeff4.homecall.co.uk and also a very frustrating Helicopter game in the playground section.

Yours James.

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Re: Schools and Wind Turbines Andy Roberts - 2008-05-25 23:57:16
Thanks for all the comments so far - I'm still trying to provide schools with good, sound arguments to go for wind generation but, together with solar thermal and PV, it is sometimes still difficult to persuade pragmatists to devote limited cash to such projects.

Andy R
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